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Ex-ATO heavyweight highlights documentation issues

Former ATO assistant deputy commissioner, Stuart Forsyth, has brought to light some issues with documentation and superannuation that he fears may catch out accountants in 2018.

SMSF Miranda Brownlee 03 January 2018
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Speaking to sister publication SMSF Adviser, Mr Forsyth said it’s important that SMSF trustees document retirement appropriately, particularly for people between 60 and 65. He finds that often, the right steps haven't been taken in this process. 


“There’s a tendency among SMSFs to not properly document retirement, not to have a declaration of retirement, and they should, irrespective of their age up to 65, there really should be some documentation around retirement and what the retirement event is,” Mr Forsyth said.

“Similarly, if they had a death benefit pension as of 30 June, they’re in a different position if that had been stopped and started before 30 June and so there should be some documentation for stopping and starting that pension, if that’s what happened.”

This is particularly important if the pension finished up over the $1.6 million as of 1 July, because the member will then have to pay that out.

“From 1 July, in the ATO’s view you can’t move that money back to accumulation so you have to pay it out. Paying the money out sometimes requires you to sell assets, which may not be what you want to do,” Mr Forsyth said.

“So particularly if you’ve got a lumpy asset in there, you might have to sell all the assets in the fund in order to make a payment out, even though you only had to make a partial payment – so you can get yourself into trouble.”

Mr Forsyth said he is also seeing a number of individuals who haven’t commenced pensions even though they’re well over 65.

“It surprises me, but they’re out there. It may be that they can’t find the cash to fund those pensions, in which case they need to have a look at the assets that are in the fund,” he said.

“The other thing I’ve seen over the years is people saying I can’t take my pension, or I won’t take my pension till I’m retired, well just because you’re 65, doesn’t mean you have to stop doing things, the law just lets you take it,” he said.

“There doesn’t seem to be much of a downside except that you have to pay the money out. Some people don’t like doing that, it’s about accumulating for them, but at some point the system is designed so that you should really be paying money out. That is the purpose of superannuation; retirement.”

Ex-ATO heavyweight highlights documentation issues
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Miranda Brownlee

Miranda Brownlee

Miranda Brownlee is the deputy editor of SMSF Adviser, which is the leading source of news, strategy and educational content for professionals working in the SMSF sector.

Since joining the team in 2014, Miranda has been responsible for breaking some of the biggest superannuation stories in Australia, and has reported extensively on technical strategy and legislative updates.
Miranda also has broad business and financial services reporting experience, having written for titles including Investor Daily, ifa and Accountants Daily.